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Friday, October 5, 2012

Why do netizens view actresses as always being better than idols?

I don't know how it is with American celebrities, but Koreans generally don't put idols and actresses on the same level of ANYTHING. I didn't think to bring it up until I saw an article about Jessica sitting at a fashion show next to a row of other actresses yesterday.

Whenever pictures comparing idols to actresses come up, the general consensus seems to always be that idols, no matter how utterly gorgeous, can never live up to the '~aura~' of an actress. Actresses are put on a pedestal, even if they suck at acting/their job, and are seen as having the better, more luxurious profession.

This has always been the case with SNSD in particular (don't ask why), and most recently Suzy ever since she starred in that movie with Han Ga In.

Below are the best replies from two articles about Jessica surrounded by actresses at a fashion show.

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Article: Jessica spotted at a fashion show... Looks as pretty as an actress

Source: TV Report via Nate

1. [+611, -159] How dare you compare her to Han Ji Min!!! In my eyes, Jessica is uglier... Look at that jaw.

2. [+487, -120] Han Ji Min >>>> space >>>> Jessica

3. [+372, -89] ?

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Article: Jessica spotted at a fashion show 'Sticks out even while sitting next to Han Ji Min'

Source: Newsen via Nate

1. [+14, -0] Of course, Han Ji Min is the most beautiful ♥ Go Jun Hee's charming, Yoon Eun Hye's gorgeous, and Jessica's just... pretty... nothing more, nothing less.

2. [+7, -0] The difference between a singer and an actress

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Another picture that has been uploaded to death on several community boards for a while now is a comparison photo between SNSD and Park Si Yeon. They call it the 'Park Si Yeon all kill' picture, and you can easily find it just searching keywords like 'SNSD's embarrassment' and 'Park Si Yeon all kill' on Naver.

Netizens are also always going on and on about SM's actresses Go Ara and Lee Yeon Hee and how they're too 'perfect' to join an idol group and how they have faces that were 'made for acting' even though the consensus seems to be that they both could use some more help in the acting department.


Whenever topics about either of them possibly being an SNSD member or a solo like BoA is brought up, the best replies are usually always about how Lee Soo Man knew that the two were too perfect to become idols and saved them for acting instead.


I don't even know where this actress > idol thing came up from but it's been the mindset for a while now. But then again, I guess you wouldn't really compare Miley Cyrus with Angelina Jolie? so I might be missing something universal...

Even just running a simple 'actresses vs idol comparison' search into Naver turns up results like:

1. Comparison of beauty between female actresses and female idols

2. Actresses >>>>>>> a wall you cannot climb over >>>> idols

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One Pann post with several pictures of idols and actresses in the same picture had the following best replies:

1. [+228, -16] Idols can never ever be put on the same level as actresses. I see a few crazy b@stards say stupid shit like how Suzy is prettier than Han Ga In but they better stop spouting nonsense if they don't want to get hurt.

2. [+171, -14] Han Ga In is daebak... She's not an actress for no reason. Anyone with eyes can see that she's on a different level from Suzy

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You can see a compilation of all of the pictures netizens always bring up to prove that actresses > idols at the Pann post here.

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132 comments:

  1. Most of the comparisons are how actresses, no matter who they are, are prettier than idols, but what does being an idol or being an actress has to do with beauty?

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  2. I dont hate Han Ji Min, but in my eyes, Jessica is prettier than her.
    I dont understand with Korean netizens, in this era kpop and idols are more recognized in the world than k-actresses or actors

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  3. They are the truly blind ones in this argument -.-

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  4. Idk, K-netizens should be thankful to idols tbh, thanks to idols, S. Korea has a pretty good image now, before knowing idols, I'm sure most fans thought that China = N. Korea = S. Korea. And PSY's success probably started thanks to the Hallyu. Now all the fans think that Korean are hotties and want to marry them.

    And this is just my opinion, but I don't like K-Drama (or just Asian Drama in general) because I think their acting kind of suck. I watch Dramas most of the time because I like the plot, but the acting generally irks me.

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  5. K-netizen is really crazy yet scared. I can't even... what's wrong with them? actress or not, they are both human. to me, therea still have idols who are more beautiful/hansome than actresses/actors. But to them, actors always are better. is there something wrong with their brain? they are so blind and narrow-minded. Don't forget that many people wanna know about Korea just because their idols. Kpop is really popular now. And k-netizens just treat idols like crap

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  6. Very interesting and I'm not too sure what could have caused this discrepancy... oversaturation of idols, maybe? and then there's another realm of idols trying to make it as actors..... How about actors that make a foray into music?

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  7. i agree many actresses are very beautiful.but this doesnt help them in acting or make them a more respectable artist. just like lee yeon hee and shi se kyung..they are the rising stars in the industry but only because of their good looks. they havent shown us any impressive acting til now. i will say the same for kim tae hee. her acting skill is decent but what makes her popular is her face. this can hinder the development of the k-drama or movie if ppl only look at actresses' appearances but not their performance.

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  8. Also, what about male actors and male idols? I only see women posted in the Nate Pann post.

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  9. I agree with this article.
    Forget about beauty, there's a reason I refuse to watch a drama or movie with only idols because many of them are embarrassing to watch, I'd rather stick to proper actresses who can actually act even if the storyline is boring.
    so what if idols are popular right now? doesn't change my mind that some of them lack that talent and need to just stop.

    the comparison is insulting to real actresses

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  10. Doesn't make sense to me. Looking at those extra posts- most of the comparisons given made no point (eg. Dara & Park Han Byul; Sulli & Victoria with Lee Yeon Hee).
    Maybe it's a sort of cheerleader effect(but for actresses)? Or maybe it's because idols are more 'approachable' to people in comparison to actresses?
    I don't think it's an actual matter of who really is prettier though etc- I think it's more like a bias that's brought about by profession (I mean netizens seem to really dislike idols. Even if they don't dislike idols, they're still very critical of them).

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  11. So they are judging a woman looks from their jobs and not er... their looks? What logic is this?

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  12. Han Ga In isn't that good actress. She is very limited IMO. But it seems korea really like her, I wonder why? She must be really a nice girl or her beauty is really something for koreans love her so much ...

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  13. it's not about the beauty ...it's all in the labeling.
    Girl idols (even the top ones like SNSD) are just a bunch of girls who wear shorts, show of their stomachs on music shows, act cutesy, silly and are generally...kinda cheap in netizens' opinion. They're also not known for having much talent. (sure some of them can sing a bit)

    Someone labelled an actress is from the start considered professional and mature. They're taken seriously. Thus netizens put them on a totally different scale than idols, even if they don't deserve such treatment.

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  14. ok. so people judge idols when they act but when ators sing, it is alright because they are not real singers. I know K-netizen just mad because many idols started acting career and they're successful.The're afraid that ators and actresses will lose their job soon huh? Funny.

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  15. This might explain the brown nosing/fixed endings whenever there's an actress on Running Man.

    It might have to do with Korea social hierarchy. Hopefully, there's someone out there who's better at explaining it.

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  16. Hi netizenbuzz can you post about 15& debut? How korean liked it?

    About T-ara donataion, how netizens reacted to it?

    About Ga In's new mv and album? Are they talking bad about her 19 + mv?


    Sorry for asking here.


    Kisses!

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  17. Stupid logic. And Yoon Eun Hye used to be an idol, too. I guess they think that way because idols are usually geared towards younger people so they may come off as not being as sophisticated. Some idols can give actresses a run for their money if given the right styling and roles.

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  18. Also, Park Si Yeon plastic face is SO distracting. I'm surprised she doesn't get shit for it like and idol would.

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    1. How do you know she is plastic? and are you sure snsd's fan aren't "plastic"? js

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  19. WTF K-netizen, idols work as hard as actors and actresses, in some cases even more.

    They should respect idols too

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  20. idols may wear short, revealed clothes, act cute.... but they are still better than actresses. Actresses may look noble but read all articles about them in this site make me disgust them.

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    1. Lol idols do the same stupid shit as those actors/actresses. They are no different. You are too naive if you think idols are any better.

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  21. It's funny how those actresses named in the articles are not that talented or pretty.. I feel bad for girl idols in general..

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  22. What kind of argument is that?!!!
    Just because these women are actresses they are better than all the female idols?!
    dumb korean netizens ¬__¬

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  23. "Actresses >>>>>>> a wall you cannot climb over >>>> idols"
    this is srly stupid.

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  24. well ppl hallyu wave started with dramas actros and actresses then Kpop came .. in my country kdramas were more famous than kpop..
    and well i love kpop and the idols r so pretty like bora, hyorin narsha, sunwha and so and so but for the knetizens r right u can't compare sung yuri, song hye kyo, park siyeon, kim tae hee, shin minah moon geun young and more with jessica, taeyeon, narsha, bora and more but sure since we all think kpop is better than kdramas and kpop started the hallyu wave and since we r biased we will think idols r way better... even my beloved biases cant compare with actors and actresses beauty

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  25. And here many bashing Park Shin Hye because she was paired with an idol in her latest Korean drama for "stealing a husband's idol"
    SNSD might be the top idols but actors/actress>>> idols, always
    Thanks for the article. I hope more pp realize that actors are a lot more superior than idols in the general pubic's opinion

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    1. By many do you mean one person? And SJK is not an idol wtf are you talking about.

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  26. Yoon Eun Hye started as an idol but disappeared a while and tried to remake her image as carefully as possible to be considered as an Actress.

    The difference probably with Jessica is she has the title "SNSD" before her name and is known as an idol/singer.

    Suzy would probably get recognition is she stopped promoting in miss A but more of "Actress" Suzy.

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  27. Fuck this shit. New F.O is better than them! AllKPop FTW!

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  28. People who think they are better just because they're actresses are pathetic.

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  29. Hallyu started with Shiri

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  30. @Unknown "we will think idols r way better"
    WTF NO.

    people is not BETTER just becuase they're singers or actors or comedians or idols or MC or wtv.

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  31. @anon @2:08 : Can you read? lol I said Park Shin Hye and SNSD Seo Hyun not talking ab the script for Nice guy's Song Joong Ki if that what you think haha
    Read better next time before wtf to a person please.
    Thanks

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    1. Than sorry I misread the name since there's no PSH in the op's post

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  32. ROFL who cares who started Hallyu XD
    this is about how Netizens think actresses are always better than idols...

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  33. girls thinking actors are a lot more superior than idols are dumb.

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  34. I've seen some actresses/actors fans with superior complex treating idols and their fans like cr*p.

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  35. AnonymousOctober 5, 2012 2:36 AM

    "people is not BETTER just becuase they're singers or actors or comedians or idols or MC or wtv."
    maybe i was not clear, what i meant is that usually fans go crazy and think their idols r better look at some comments here.. like i said i love kpop i love idols but for me knetizens r right at some point, for me i havent found any idol who can compare with the actresses in terms of beauty and other things

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  36. lol at i-fans for calling kfans stupid bc of the difference in culture and belief...
    Like it or not Korea is not all ab Kpop n your unnis/oppas

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    1. Seriously these comments are embarrassing

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  37. "maybe it's because idols are more 'approachable' to people in comparison to actresses?"
    I agree with this. Idols are practically everywhere on the tv... variety, mc-ing, music shows, sometimes people are getting fed-up. unlike idols, actresses have this 'mystery' vibe among them. make people want to know more about them. probably that's why netizens prefer Actor/Actresses more than Idols.

    even though YEH started with being an idol, she has a lot of hardwork to turn public view on her for just being an idol to a serious actress. that's why current idols, if they'll ever have the chance to let go their idol status, they've got to work really hard in making people know them as an actress. if ever they're serious in that field.

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  38. AnonymousOctober 5, 2012 2:48 AM
    "lol at i-fans for calling kfans stupid bc of the difference in culture and belief...
    Like it or not Korea is not all ab Kpop n your unnis/oppas"

    THIS......ur comment is gold

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  39. omg han ga in can't act for real... even suzy conveyed a better emotion in her role in architecture 101. and you know what mess han ga in create in TMTETS. i know han ga in is pretty and all... but... she can't act -_-

    the blasphemy...

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  40. It's probably because:

    1. Actresses get paid more.

    2. You cannot become an actress with a ton of plastic surgery.

    3. They're not in the public eye as often as idols are, and are subject to less scrutiny AND are less likely to be called "irritating".

    4. Even if they aren't great actresses, their "lack" of skill isn't constantly thrown in the public's face. Unlike idols who are supposed to be able to sing and dance, yet most can't do at least one (much less, BOTH) of those things—and STILL attempt to add "acting" to their resumé.

    5. K-Netizens don't appreciate how idols look at acting as their "fall back" career. As something that they'll do AFTER they become idols. It's a little disrespectful to automatically assume that just because you're an idol, you'll be a successful actor also.

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  41. Going off this site and the knetizen comments it seems like Korea doesn't like Idols very much, so why are there so many of them? And how are they still making money?

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  42. The truth is beautiful people are boring to watch. I'd rather watch serious actress like Gong Hyo Jin, Bae Doo Na, Jeon Do Yeon than Kim Tae Hee and Han Ji Min.

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  43. Park Si-yeon was one of the runner-up for 2 Pageant, before she fixed her nose
    It doesn't matter if you hater her her beauty ( and now talent too) has been recognized and appreciated in Korea
    Sones need to stop bashing her bc K-nitizens don't think the same as yours

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  44. I'm beginning to realize the pann nate crowds are filled with a bunch of old farts, since I'm seeing a lot of 'won't someone please think of the children' meme everywhere.

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  45. no shit actresses are better than these dumb fuck idols who have no experience and try to get into movies and dramas with their shitty acting. its pretty obvious sm paid for that retarded article and these snsd girls trying to act is like a friggin joke!

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  46. idols just need to stick to their job which is to sing dance perform. in korea, idols who go into acting like suzy are looked down upon there and only ifans think they are good and loved

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  47. this type of thinking is sooooooooo funny and stupid idek!!
    BTW it's funny how the whole Korea breaking into the world has come through IDOLS and not actresses...
    the netizens...
    sometimes are really jealous !!:S

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  48. What can I say? So stupid. When they comment"Actresses >>>>>>> a wall you cannot climb over >>>> idols" It's not a about culture anymore. It's really stupid. So basically. When an actress has bad acting, and not beautiful. They are still better than idols, even if those idols good at singing and more beautiful? Wow, what a logic

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  49. I don't care, for me there still have idols who are better than actresses. K-netizen or exactly, Nate users, are so blind and stupid. Different culture? what the hell is that culture? Can't even understand.

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  50. "The difference between a singer and an actress" "Actresses >>>>>>> a wall you cannot climb over >>>> idols" lol, pls. Actresses or not they are human, they work hard for their dream. Why treat them like that? It's so unfair for idols.

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  51. So many idiots filled in here...

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  52. Thank u for the interesting reads Netizen buzz, i have always wondered why some ex idols turned actresses are treated so coldly. And y they seem to want to prove themselves more than those who came into the industry as actresses. Thank U for the answer

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  53. lol some people didn't even read the whole thing, did they? it's not about the idol's acting. it's about their beauty, which is ridiculous. some of those actress mentioned are as bad as idols when it comes to acting lol.

    i think han ga in is prettier than suzy, but the former really can't act for someone whose job is an actress. same goes to SM actresses lee yeonhee and go ara, those two can't act either lol. i think they're prettier than most snsd, but to say that the two are better because they're actresses compared to idols are totally ridiculous.

    it's a world thing imo. actresses are considered to have ~higher class~ than idols whose main target are teenagers. like netizenbuzz said, people will prefer megan fox or jessica alba who can't act rather than idols like miley or demi

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  54. what is stupid is for the public to decide a strict hierarchy (ie actors/actresses over idols)... what you do should not define you, one's individual merits should mostly be the defining factor in society.

    lee yeon-hee and go ara are actresses but can't really act. uee is an idol that can actually act. and yet their job descriptions define them rather than their skills? seriously?

    one can't excuse culture in this type of prejudice...

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  55. ^^ said hierarchy is not just beauty... it's the whole image package... - it's like simply having the actress tag elevates them or something.

    and even if it is just beauty, that kind of thinking is still messed up.

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  56. Actresses are better than the never ending debuting idols.
    They have a very good talent for entertainment, idols are just for show. Unless you manage to stand out(which is very hard) no one will recognize your singing talent these days. Actresses are just better.

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  57. Okay, let's break this down for all the crazy people on here like "but my unnies are so much better!!! Kpop!!!"

    Kpop, in general, is something that is geared towards teenage girls and girls in their early twenties.
    In terms of American music they would be Miley Cyrus or Justin Beiber. Pop acts with a large, crazy teenage following and largely gimmicky images.

    Now in America, who do you think is more respected by the public? Miley Cyrus and Justin Beiber or A-list actors and actresses?

    Idols are idols. They dance in synch and act cute and then go on variety shows and basically act like teenagers even if they're in their late 20s so that they can appeal to their teenage fanbase. You go to any of their sites and it will be filled of crazy fangirls that will go crazy if you even say one bad thing about them.

    Actors and actresses just have a more mature image from the start. They're known to be professional and (compared to kpop fans) "boring" because they don't have to act crazy on variety shows to get fans.

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    1. Thank you for this logic

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  58. I guess netizens do make sense to a certain extent. I find it a little unfair for idols to become actors and actresses via the idol path. Rather than multi-tasking, i really hope they can focus on sing and dance instead. With an industry so competitive, they have to constantly improve themselves to outdo the rest who are becomingly increasingly talented.

    I must admit that some idol actors and actresses can really act but i guess they should focus on what is important to them

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  59. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Very true and irrefutible. It does not need a caption of "idol" or "actress" etc. Besides the physical appearance what makes one beautiful person stand above the other is the "aura" or "personality" , "charisma" and "talent". It's a combination of these or all. Media also plays an extremely important role in projecting them favoribly or adversely.
    Personally, I would not like it too if someone puts down a person based on matters of purely personal opinion. It's this diversity in tastes and opinions that makes people/world so fascinating. For me there is beauty in every person if only one could see it. :)

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  60. Lmao some of you guys need to calm down its the same thinking when it comes to Miley Cyrus vs Jennifer Lawrence.

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  61. The idols are normally groups of people whose individuality tends to be hidden unless they stand out in some way........looks, singing, dancing, acting, variety show or becoming media's favorite. Definitely, not most of the idols can act nor most of actresses can sing. Some can do both but are better in one. We tend to be too harsh on either if in OUR opinion they do not suit a particular role. But, I can see the resentment coming against the idols when the whole purpose of casting them in a drama is more because of their popularity and marketability rather than acting......specially when good actresses are available. One person always shines more than another who is part of a group not necessarily because one is better than the other.

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  62. i dont even know how they do the comparison... so... even if they suck at acting if theyre beautiful then theyre awesome actresses?? O__O if they were saying things like "han ji min's acting skills are better than jessica's singing abilities" id be like ohh it might be but nope, theyre just saying theyre pretty and perfect and blah blah...
    theres idols who try acting and actors that try singing so imo, they have this connection but cant really be compared...
    another thing, as far as I know yoon eun hye was AN IDOL! so now she's perfect because shes an actress? and then when she was an idol people badmouthed her like theyre doing with idols now and compared her to actresses??

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  63. how about male idols and actors?

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  64. I don't think any celebrities in the US are viewed like that. They're all in one category and it's 'Celebrity'

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  65. Korea sometimes seems like an ugly place to live

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  66. If you're gonna be an idol, then be an idol, unless you know you're gonna be one hell of an actress. Vice versa.

    What bugs me is that many of these idols are taking away opportunities for rising actors/actresses.

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  67. 'So stupid. When they comment

    "Actresses >>>>>>> a wall you cannot climb over >>>> idols" It's not a about culture anymore.

    It's really stupid.
    So basically. When an actress has bad acting, and not beautiful. They are still better than idols, even if those idols good at singing and more beautiful? Wow, what a logic'

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  68. So funny how netizens at korea and here defend talentless and overrated actresses & actors.
    there are good ones but many of the most popular are thanks to their good looks (plastic in several cases).

    BEG, 2VXQ, 2AM, 2NE1 hwaiting !

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  69. lol@the comment saying you can't become an actress with tons of plastic surgery. are you serious?

    I always lol at the picture with park shi yeon because they look like kids next to her. The mindset that actresses are prettier(or better) just because they're actresses is stupid.

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  70. I thought it was well known that SNSD have a lot of anti fans?

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  71. they make it seem like idols are sooo much uglier than actresses which i disagree o__O btw han ga in can't really act =_=

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  72. What bugs me is that many of these idols are taking away opportunities for rising actors/actresses.

    ^ AGREEEE!!!!!!!

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  73. I do agree that some idol are casted for the first time only because they are popular when they have had absolutely no experience of acting. Some deserve to be given a chance again who show that they can act well...like UEE but others are recruited to sell the drama and publicize them. This I think, maybe a reason why people resent the idols falling in this category. YEH might have been an idol but she is respected because she proved herself to be a good actress. Respect is earned irrespective of wether you are an idol or an actress.

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  74. Interesting. But I really like the comparison you made OP of how you would not compare Miley Cyrus to Angelina Jolie(blasphemy!). It totally made the whole thing fall in place for me. No matter how famous idols are they are always going to be just teeny-boppers. I think even in the west actresses are generally seen as more glamorous and sophisticated than singers (let alone disney-channel type singers).

    Also interesting because a lot of these fabulous actresses have very poor acting skills. Especially Kim Tae Hee. Even though most idols are even poorer at acting, I'd say some are on par with a couple of Korean actresses (and by that I mean they both suck).

    Also i-fans are VERY mistaken if they think idols started Hallyu. Everyone knows it all started with K-dramas because even before BoA and DBSK, there was Winter Sonata and THAT's what really opened the door for Korean media in Asia. I know my complete immersion with Korean culture started with BOF...

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  75. LOL, cuz of idols that K actors and actresses are known.
    Without them. No one would even care.
    Int'l fans are important part of Kpop and Kdramas.
    Here ppl are saying that actresess are better. Who brought fame to you in the first place?
    Sica-beautiful. SNSD-gorgeous no matter what.

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  76. ^^

    LOL CUZ OF KDRAMA KPOP IS KNOWN....

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  77. I started to like Korea and its culture as portrayed in the dramas not because of the idols. They came after I wanted to know more. Since I don't understand the language so dramas hold much more meaning to me. For me hallyu factor came into play because of the dramas and the actors/actresses but that in no way mean that I hold the idols as inferior or less talented and beautiful. Within all, every artist is held in different standing and respect depending on their individual talents, appearances and personalities. I would like to believe that majority do not think of one in any way superior or inferior to the other.

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  78. All the korean Actors are hotter and more handsome than you idol oppas, yes, including TVXQ, Bigbang, 2pm, SuJu and Shinee.
    the same for females.

    > Idols are the trash of Korean culture

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  79. My introduction to Korea and the interest in everything related started with the drama you're beautiful, goong, giant etc . I did not realize how beautiful it is and the people too. Although I now know all the famous idols but still prefer to watch the dramas when I get the time. So, yes I would say that it all started with the dramas and continues to be that way.

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  80. Nobody specially human beings are trash with all due apologies. Although I see the dramas more but many of the idols are talented bunch. How can they be thought that way when they bring joy to so many

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  81. all korean actresses and actors are always superior than singers and idols in EVERYTHING.

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  82. This is really weird thinking by Netizens. I keep up to date with American news and shit and even then, if a rookie actress/ nobody looked good people will still comment she looks good despite their popularity... Their is no 'amazing aura' stuff in the west I guess.

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  83. When Yoon Eun Hye was an idol in BabyVOX, she used to have a lot of antis in korea, even k-netizens called her fat and ugly.


    Now that she's an actress they call her perfect and gorgeous -___-

    Netizens are assh0les

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    1. That's cause she was really considered fat compared to the other girls but you can see that now she lost weight, dresses better and is even considered a fashionista. Make up also made a huge difference. Their make up then was really a disaster. Even I think she looks gorgeous now compared to before and that is not because she's an actress now.

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  84. What is superior?
    It is all a matter of perception differing from person to person. A beautiful melodious song cannot be inferior to a powerful act and vice versa. A soul is nourished equally by both depending on the need of that moment.

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  85. A good actress seems wonderful depending on the character she portrays as scripted by the author. A singer touches us with a beautiful sung song or music played. If their appearances are pleasure to watch ..they rise above others. Both are equally important to us

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  86. Yeah I've always known that actors>idols in SK, but I never really understood it. But it makes more sense now, since you brought up the comparison between Miley and Angelina Jolie. I think, to put it in USA terms, idols would be something like disney stars, because they're marketed to a younger audience.

    So in that case, the general public definitely puts them on a lower level, because actors are more for the mature/older audience I guess idk.

    I still think it's dumb, though, to allow the actor's higher pedestal to decide who's more beautiful/handsome.

    But meh. Other people can think what they want, idrgaf.

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  87. at the end of the day, beauty is subjective.

    i think we have to agree that to be an actress, a leading one at least, you have to be somewhat easy on the eyes, if not drop dead gorgeous. but as singers, it's more important that you can sing and dance rather than stand there and look pretty.

    it also seems like actresses have a more elegant "aura" because i guess it just seems like acting requires more thought than singing and dancing. singing and dancing is more of a routine thing that you can do with practice, but acting requires delving into emotions and being eloquent.

    i also think that since actresses don't usually go on variety shows and don't have to be silly to entertain people, they have a more classy image and are always portrayed as "pretty".

    i would have to agree that kdramas started the hallyu wave not kpop...

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  88. Korea & in Great China Region, actors & actresses are professionally trained for at least 4 years at Universities. Then pursue master to Dr degree.

    Behind acting and singing , they are two major professional camping.

    They are academic more recognized. For SNSD Jessica's case, sitting next to her not only national recognized Hang JM , only also Yun Eun Hye, for eg. She is now a master degree undergraduate at Chung Ang University for mirco-film & image course. This 17th BIFF (4-6 Oct), her micro-film was chosen to represent Korea.

    And obviously, can you imagine if Lee Young Ae sitting in the same row ? her worldwide achievement and doctorate degree in filming.

    This happen to male actors and idols too. Why Kim Jaejoong & Park Yoochun so hardworking to transform themselves into acting identity ?
    They are successful thanks for their talents , hardworking & given opportunities. Yet, we can
    see more bias is given to Kim Soo-hyun, he was from Chung An University major in Film! He was trained as professional & really can act. The blockbuster movie "The Thieves", largely increased Kim Soo-hyun scripts. And let's observe carefully , production crews 90% from major University studying films for years.

    Singing idols are short term fancy" products" in their eyes. A group of weak academic background teens mingle all days , without critical thinking and just like that.

    However, Han Ji Min sitting next to Jessica is nothing to degrade Jessica, they are colleague now! AM entertainment was taken over by SM C & C, Han JM was traded to them now. Jessica soon no more mere idol after film some for SM C &C and Han JM.



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  89. AnonymousOctober 5, 2012 3:14 AM

    The truth is beautiful people are boring to watch. I'd rather watch serious actress like Gong Hyo Jin, Bae Doo Na, Jeon Do Yeon than Kim Tae Hee and Han Ji Min.
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    Kim Tae Hee is not considered a serious actress in Korea. all she is is a beautiful face, but never recognized as a good actress.

    There was an article I read awhile back with list of how people view entertainers in high regard. And this was the result of the ranking:

    1. sports people like Park Tae Hwan , Kim Yuna
    2. actors/actresses
    3. Variety hosts like Yoo Jae Suk
    4. Newscasters
    5. comedians
    6. idols

    idols are considered at the bottom of the food chain in entertainment

    The reason why actresses are held in higher regard than idols is also mostly because netizens are kind of fed up with the constant media plays of the idol's agencies to promote them, with article titles like ex. "Suzy Looks Cute With Her Puffy Face sel-Ca"

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  90. AnonymousOctober 5, 2012 5:54 PM

    LOL, cuz of idols that K actors and actresses are known.
    Without them. No one would even care.
    Int'l fans are important part of Kpop and Kdramas.
    Here ppl are saying that actresess are better. Who brought fame to you in the first place?
    Sica-beautiful. SNSD-gorgeous no matter what.


    No offense but do a research before posting nonsense.

    EVERYONE knows hallyu was started by korean dramas/korean actors NOT k-pop. So that whole comment of yours about korean actors owe everything to kpop is utterly ridiculous.

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  91. I did read somewhere that in Korea, especially in male conscripts in the army, k-idols are considered glorified strippers(?) covered in a thin veil of music. They themselves admit that many k-idols sing horribly but they're beautiful so they don't mind at all. I do think that this is one of a reason as to why an actress, being "prettier and cleaner", is an unclimbable wall compared to k-idols.

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  92. Dara is an idol and she's way more prettier than those actresses.

    Actors and actresses fans think they're superior than idol fans ROFL XDDD

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  93. Sarah bright man, celinedion, beyonce, Whitney Houston among singers and Meryl Streep, Audrey Hepburn among the most respected of actresses. How can you think of them any less. Each has their own uniqueness and talents.
    One can only argue that one of them is more respected over the other but definitely not that actresses are superior over singers/ idols or viceversa. Respect as an artist wether actress or an idol is different from that of a person. Similarly, as anon above said beauty is subjective. ...not dependent on profession

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  94. Sarah bright man, celinedion, beyonce, Whitney Houston are considered musicals for neitizens while idols are Miley or Justin
    They aren't the same are they?
    Idol=/= musical

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  95. Anon above you are absolutely correct. I basically meant that respect is not forte of any one particular branch of artist may they be singers, idols or actresses. It depends on the individual artist to earn respect through their talent, personalities, behaviour etc I really don't listen to Beiber or Miley. Would Michael Jackson and Marilyn Monroe be considered idols? Singing idol and actress idol? Elvis Presley??

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    1. Waooh that's a hard question. But I don't think they would be, cause they are more like legends and wouldn't be in the idol category to begin with. I don't know if I make any sense. It's hard to explain. It's like Cyrus and beyonce. Both have done acting but Cyrus would be considered as the idol actress and not beyonce

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  96. Anyone can be idolized.......singer, actor, dancer, doctor, mother Teresa etc. Here it seems to be just for the popular singers. Am I correct?

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  97. idols in Korea has a bit of different meaning... time to google it :)

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  98. What if the article is saying Jessica stands out. Aren't they like over reacting?

    >< It's just simply rude to compare people by their appearance. Han Jimin and Jessica has their own features and traits that make them charming in their own way.

    Just because Jessica stands out doesn't mean she is better or prettier than Han Jimin. It could simply be that she is wearing white while Han Jimin is wearing black. It could also be because Jessica has lighter hair than Han Jimin.

    And just because Han Jimin is a actress doesn't mean she is better or prettier than Jessica. If one do think that way they as simply being too shallow and uneducated.

    Basically all I really want to say is people shouldn't compare others by appearances.

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  99. Fans cannot be totally blamed by reacting strongly and sometimes going overboard because the headlines and the articles are extremely provoking. Even people who are on the sidelines are drawn into the debate because of what and how these perfectly normal pictures are captioned or the headlines made. Not responsible journalism because it taints the thinking of many in whom these thoughts of comparison did not even arise.
    Yes, I agree they are overreacting but maybe it's the result of repeated such articles. The positive part is that it results in a debate raising very interesting viewpoints

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  100. How about Actors/actresses vs Non-idol singers?

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  101. What's sad is seeing these idols try to crossover into acting because they know that being an idol is a timer running out. Some of them are just god awful and take away acting jobs from actual actors. Now in the case of Go Ara or Lee Yeon Hee who if chose a different path would have been idols themselves, I still see them above female idols.

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  102. Han Ga In can't act? LOL ridiculous.

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  103. Jess loooks great here.....maybe we can put those actresses next to first lady, scientist or doctors....then we can see theyre just actress the last level from production team....they just packaging too....just like idols but with pricey packaging...idols got fancy packaging..
    Hope uol understand wat im saying here....they all bunch of idiots too...
    The real artist looks awful usually like bae do na, lee byung hun,tom hank, whoopi golberg...few of them happen to looks good like won bin....but not lee dong wok, kim ta hee, jang dong gun, lee yeon hee, song hye kyo..and yes ha ji min too.

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  104. I definitely agree with you about your point that the whole hallyu wave was started by Korean dramas and korean actors. It probably started with Da Chang Jin and basically, it snowballed from there.

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  105. yeah thats all true but
    its the few singers that actually have vocal talent, but are still idols
    versus
    some actresses/actors who honestly cant act
    And korean still put them up on a pedestal, which is as bad as fangirls being delusional.

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  106. now that she's an actress she lost a lot of weight DUH

    you're really dumb lol

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  107. "Yeah I've always known that actors>idols in SK, but I never really understood it. But it makes more sense now, since you brought up the comparison between Miley and Angelina Jolie. I think, to put it in USA terms, idols would be something like disney stars, because they're marketed to a younger audience.
    So in that case, the general public definitely puts them on a lower level, because actors are more for the mature/older audience I guess idk.

    I still think it's dumb, though, to allow the actor's higher pedestal to decide who's more beautiful/handsome. "


    ^
    i agree with this ^_^

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  108. Lol yeah ofc Miley Cyrus is nowhere to compare with Angie, but these k-netizens thought that ALL actresses are better than idols. No matter how bad their acting is, they are still worshiped and all. While in America, people are way more realistic. If they suck in acting, they just suck.

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  109. YEH is gorgeous, but in that pic...no... it wasn't a good picture for her
    from the picture in the article jessica definitely looks better than YEH, YEH looks like she didn't get enough sleep :/

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  110. If I'm comparing looks, then I don't care who's an idol or an actress. If Jessica is prettier than an actress, then that's it. Obviously in Korea everything is about status and an actress's status is above an idols, so I guess it makes sense.

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  112. jessica is prettier and way fashionable than those actresses tbh..

    those actress can't touch this natural beauty ~

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  113. I thought for a second about how on the contrary Adele cannot be compared to lets say Kristen Stewart ... and then i realized that in k-pop there are levels of singers ... their are the idols ... and then the true singers or artists like for example Ali .. imagine her sitting in that first row .... not bad huh !

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  114. Jessica is beautiful but most actresses are more natural than most idols which is why Koreans like actresses more.

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  115. call me anything ! but i only find kim tae hee pretty from all the actresses idols are way prettier!

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  116. ohh please ...miley CAN SING ! she isn't in a group that hire a VISUAL !

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  117. AND GOT PLASTIC SURGERY

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  118. But the thing "compare Miley Cyrus with Angelina Jolie?" is true....

    You can't compare any female idol with Han Gain... No, just no.

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  119. Not to forget Korean cinema also played a huge role to get recognition abroad. Directors like Park Chan Wook, Kim Jee Woon, Kim Ki Duk (who is more famous abroad than in Korea) and Bong Joon Ho who are acclaimed all around the world

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  120. may be its too late for me to comment..but I find its so intresting topic


    I my self is an internaational fan...I loved Korea before I know Kpop long time ago..I liked its culture, and was so intrested about the Issue between the south & north


    any way, I am a Kpop fan, not Kdrama...I disagree with one said Kdrama the one started hallyu wave..because honestly, I see more talk in the forums about Kpop than Kdrama..I am not sure though..I am kinda new to Kpop...but that what I realize


    I don't understand why all think Koreans have high regard for actress than Idol?? and why??


    and if that so...why idols have much restriction than actress?


    I think all of you agree..that dating for idols, will end terribily for them, unlike actress...thats mean Korean have more cleaner image for idols than actress!


    not sure,,,but I am guessing

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  121. Yeah, I still can remember the first time she entered the Korean Industry, she appeared at many variety shows like X-MAN, Love Letter, by the name of Yoon Eun Hye from 'Baby V.O.X'


    I think it's fortunate for her because Baby V.O.X was over before a high K-POP competition era begins... she's before DBSK, Bora, btw. Then as you say, she disappeared for a while and become an actress.


    She knows how to do well in this industry, i could say that she can adjust herself wisely. Now she's in the higher position she was before.

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  122. Okay, since you compare idol and actress with Miley Cylus and Jolie, I've become clear of it LOL


    I don't know why, but I really get flattering with the idol who has a real talent, someone who can compose music by him/herself, etc. I think even the K netizens have the different level between idols..


    Recently I find them rank idols with another word .. "Artist" vs "Idol"
    and I think idol who has good qualifications can be considered 'Artist'


    then we can come to the end of discussion between 'actor' and 'idol'
    because they actually don't work at the same field, idol just sings and dances while actor acts it out.


    I think the actress like Kim Tae Hee who only has a pretty face can somehow considered 'Idol' as well.. LOL

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  123. now what about "Choi Sulli > Clara Lee". what would they think . hm.

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